StoryCorps: Poverty, Faith, and Stick-to-ativity

Sandra Joireman, an eminent political scientist and a former board chair of Bread for the World, interviewed me for StoryCorps.  The interview sums up my life story and insights from my forthcoming book on strategies to push back against MAGA and get progress against poverty back on track.

I very much hope you will listen to the entire interview. It’s 24 minutes.

If you don’t have time for that, I think you’ll enjoy the brief exchange that followed a question about what I’m most proud of.

Here’s the clip: